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  What do people/souls do in heaven?

  by David Gladden in

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  i'm always hearing about people wanting to goto heaven... .

  1. what exactly are people/souls supposed to do in heaven?

  2. if you believe in heaven, why?.

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  refiners fire

  Has anyone ever noticed how detailed, down to the finest details, descriptions of Hell are? Just read Rebecca Brown, her books are obtainable from any fundy bookshop.
  Has anyone ever noticed how vague descriptions of life in heaven are?
  Noone seems to have any idea what will occur there.
  This is probably because noone REALLY wants to spend eternity fawning and uttering praises to the Godhead.
  I mean, Why does HE need the praises, the singing, the palm waving?

  Personally I have no set philosophy on afterlife. "My Father has many mansions" perhaps there is a heaven for every opinion.Or, It is possible we go where we believe we are going.
  Also,It is possible we are simply reabsorbed into a supermind which learns from our experiences here on earth.
  It is possible we simply go into unconsciousness.
  If I find the categorical answer, I'll let you know..
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  making apostate predictions .

  by refiners fire in

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  late in 1993 i made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, jw.. the prediction was that the understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.. as it turned out, i was wrong, they changed it in november 1995.. but the witness still rang me up and asked how i could possibly know that 2 years before the org did.

  the guys a rotten apostate now.. hehehe.. anyway, last night i did it again to another innactive believer, i predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that child molestation is going to hit the headlines.

  the second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability.

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  refiners fire

  Moneypenny

  law suits against the organisation.

  Surely noone would think for a moment Jehovahs loving organization would be concerned with such BASE motives.
  Rather:
  

  lost loved ones

  There is the deepest concern in the hearts of our "Mother" organization.
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  CAPTIONS PLEASE!

  by nicolaou in

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  okay, we last saw these pictures about a year ago so for the 3000+ members who've joined since then here they are again.. .

  picture 1. .

  picture 2. .

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  refiners fire

  get your own songbook you wog bastard

  (cant get the picture in here)
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  Your favorite pic from the Kingdom pubs.

  by LDH in

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  this one is for jt, who is interested in body modification (lol).

  i will be the first to admit a rabid fascination with a certain picture....... back when i was about 7, i stumbled across the most fascinating picture in all of dubdom....... are you holding your breath?!?!?.

  it was in the evolution or creation book....the picture of the black, african tribal woman with that huge freakin plate in her lip!.

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  refiners fire

  I always liked that one from a WT of the 70s where all the people are being bombarded, collapsing, dying, beneath a rain of Red arrows labelled "Apostacy, fornication,drug use"...etc.
  Very graphic image.

  I also never forgot one I saw in a book where there are about 6 weeping, supplicating women holding screaming babies squatted on a rocky hill with the flood waters rising and rising, while their cold hearted angelic husbands leave their flesh bodies and flesh families behind. Spooky picture.
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  making apostate predictions .

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  late in 1993 i made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, jw.. the prediction was that the understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.. as it turned out, i was wrong, they changed it in november 1995.. but the witness still rang me up and asked how i could possibly know that 2 years before the org did.

  the guys a rotten apostate now.. hehehe.. anyway, last night i did it again to another innactive believer, i predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that child molestation is going to hit the headlines.

  the second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability.

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  refiners fire

  Gumby.
  Indeed, just having a bit of fun here.
  Still, I DO have a gut feeling on blood.
  Indeed I dont claim that anything printed is more than personal opinion.

  Perhaps I will rephrase that last sentence and take it out of the language of doublespeak...
  Everything I write is mere personal opinion.
  
  Didnt Russell say THAT too?
  Only difference is...he said it was personal opinion AFTER he was caught in the jaws of the predictive trap.

  Perhaps some good little Betheldub is cruising here observing on behalf of the org. Heres a thought for you my friend, maybe the annointed 1935 lot could be some kind of "generation", that would allow you to consider the dates 2005, 2015 as "significant".
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  making apostate predictions .

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  late in 1993 i made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, jw.. the prediction was that the understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.. as it turned out, i was wrong, they changed it in november 1995.. but the witness still rang me up and asked how i could possibly know that 2 years before the org did.

  the guys a rotten apostate now.. hehehe.. anyway, last night i did it again to another innactive believer, i predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that child molestation is going to hit the headlines.

  the second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability.

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  refiners fire

  25 years you say!!
  That is a long time, and the world moves very fast these days.
  Still, in 25 years I will be pushing 70 years old. Prophets of the Russell ilk usually tend to set their ultimate fulfillment date at the the far extreme of their life. Then, when their predictions fail, and they are old, they promptly die of "disappointment".

  A 25 year predictive scenario is pretty common. Russell bought himself 35 years of prophetic life! Yes, perhaps I should have set the final date much further in the future to give myself more years of prophetic credibility.

  The 1935 an(n)ointed.
  Never thought of that one. Would you care to consult the spirit yourself on that one??
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  making apostate predictions .

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  late in 1993 i made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, jw.. the prediction was that the understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.. as it turned out, i was wrong, they changed it in november 1995.. but the witness still rang me up and asked how i could possibly know that 2 years before the org did.

  the guys a rotten apostate now.. hehehe.. anyway, last night i did it again to another innactive believer, i predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that child molestation is going to hit the headlines.

  the second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability.

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  refiners fire

  The 1994 prediction wasnt actually a "prophecy" as such. There was hard evidence, precedents had been set in the past. So I was pretty sure on that one.
  Same with the Molestation prediction, I already know its going to happen.
  But the Blood prediction...ah! Pure prophecy.
  I have no evidence, nothing solid, to base it on, Its purely a prediction made after consulting the "Spirit of Apostacy".
  A gut feeling.
  I feel a shift in the way of the world towards acceptance and non controversy. The WT leaders dont even know it themselves, but they are irrestistibly drawn to the bed chamber of the harlot.
  They have their corporate empire to be concerned about.
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  making apostate predictions .

  by refiners fire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  late in 1993 i made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, jw.. the prediction was that the understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.. as it turned out, i was wrong, they changed it in november 1995.. but the witness still rang me up and asked how i could possibly know that 2 years before the org did.

  the guys a rotten apostate now.. hehehe.. anyway, last night i did it again to another innactive believer, i predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that child molestation is going to hit the headlines.

  the second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability.

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  refiners fire

  Late in 1993 I made a prediction to an innactive, but still believing, JW.
  The prediction was that the Understanding of the "generation" would be changed before the end of 1994 and that it would become a figurative generation.
  As it turned out, I was wrong, they changed it in November 1995.
  But the Witness still rang me up and asked how I could possibly know that 2 years before the org did. The guys a rotten apostate now.
  hehehe.

  Anyway, last night I did it again to another innactive believer, I predicted that the blood stance will be abandoned, and that Child molestation is going to hit the headlines. The second ones pretty straight forward, a nice little teaser for him to gain confidence in my "prophetic" ability. Something to stick in his mind. I set a time frame for the big one, the blood matter. 5 years.
  What do you think?
  Will I be proven a "false prophet" in his eyes???
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  Today is my B-day and here is my brief story

  by STRUGGLE in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am a third generation jw.

  i told him we would talk later.

  later told me i was going to be dis'f.

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  refiners fire

  Welcome to the party pal. (As Bruce Willis said)

  There is nothing unusual in your story.same thing happened to me.
  I confess my sins. The elders say theyll help. No help is forthcoming.
  not ONE visit or inquiry. Oh! They DID make an announcement from the platform that I was "publicly reproved", so everyone else could ignore me like the elders did.
  So...there you go.
  Dont worry Sister, youll find people who will talk over your problems here.
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  Russell quotes

  by larc in

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  2. friends

  my local library has the studies in the scriptures by russell.

  here are a few quotes for vol.

  2, 1906 edition.. 1872. six thousand years from the creation of adam were complete in a.d. 1872, and hence that since a.d. 1872, we chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the millenium.".

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  refiners fire

  New ones! If you havent read any of Russells writings, access the Link sites above.
  Articles are also posted,recommended by myself as worthy of being read.